Comments on: The End Of Faith, On Faith http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/ These are the personal studies of one guy on his spiritual journey through Mormonism. Many articles, books and podcasts reviewed and reflected upon. Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:42:08 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Last Post *sniff sniff, *tear « One Dude’s Mormon Studies http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-4783 Last Post *sniff sniff, *tear « One Dude’s Mormon Studies Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:12:13 +0000 http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-4783 [...] Those were my issues nearly a year ago. To seal the deal of my apostasy for me today- or the “final nail in the coffin” for me was probably and quite simply learning how to think critically for myself. Let me explain: anytime an issue was brought up with my father or anyone concerned with my doubts, their factory-produced replies came packed with logical fallacies. Every single argument for belief either ended in an unacceptable fallacy or that magic word to suspend rational thought and inquiry…faith. [...] [...] Those were my issues nearly a year ago. To seal the deal of my apostasy for me today- or the “final nail in the coffin” for me was probably and quite simply learning how to think critically for myself. Let me explain: anytime an issue was brought up with my father or anyone concerned with my doubts, their factory-produced replies came packed with logical fallacies. Every single argument for belief either ended in an unacceptable fallacy or that magic word to suspend rational thought and inquiry…faith. [...]

]]> By: Mark G http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-16 Mark G Sat, 18 Nov 2006 02:32:56 +0000 http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-16 I just read your post on doublethink. Those are some great quotes from the book 1984. Thanks for sharing! I just read your post on doublethink. Those are some great quotes from the book 1984. Thanks for sharing!

]]> By: Steve M. http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-15 Steve M. Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:09:55 +0000 http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-15 I've thought about this a lot, too. And I don't want this to sound too cynical or emotion-charged, but I think Mormons are pretty good at the whole <a href="http://withinthebubble.blogspot.com/2006/06/doublethink.html" rel="nofollow">Dounlethink</a> thing. I’ve thought about this a lot, too. And I don’t want this to sound too cynical or emotion-charged, but I think Mormons are pretty good at the whole Dounlethink thing.

]]> By: Mark G http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-14 Mark G Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:18:42 +0000 http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-14 <blockquote>I don’t mean to be critical, but I’ve wondered how BYU students can be so intelligent, inquisitive, and deep-thinking Monday through Saturday, and then feel totally comfortable turning their brains off on Sunday.</blockquote> In my opinion, this is one of the most interesting subjects to study: understanding how educated people can believe religious, paranormal or supernatural claims while also having knowledge of the advances in the fields of science, sociology and psychology. Many times we are confronted with information that proves contrary to our core beliefs and we have to mentally choose which cognition or idea we will accept. Generally the idea that will sustain our core beliefs will be the victor, and generally larger amounts of information to the contrary of our beliefs will be required to "tip the scales", so to speak. This is called Cognitive Dissonance ("cognitive" being ideas and "dissonance" being the seperation or distance between the two). Generally when we are confronted with Cognitive Dissonance we may be show signs of fear, anger, and non-rational thinking (these are attributes I have clearly seen when talking to my father about controversial subjects in Church history). I have compiled some good information on the subject of Cognitive Dissonance if you click <a href="http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/tag/cognitive-dissonance/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and yes, it is very interesting indeed what you stated in your comment. Thanks for stopping by, Steve!

I don’t mean to be critical, but I’ve wondered how BYU students can be so intelligent, inquisitive, and deep-thinking Monday through Saturday, and then feel totally comfortable turning their brains off on Sunday.

In my opinion, this is one of the most interesting subjects to study: understanding how educated people can believe religious, paranormal or supernatural claims while also having knowledge of the advances in the fields of science, sociology and psychology. Many times we are confronted with information that proves contrary to our core beliefs and we have to mentally choose which cognition or idea we will accept. Generally the idea that will sustain our core beliefs will be the victor, and generally larger amounts of information to the contrary of our beliefs will be required to “tip the scales”, so to speak. This is called Cognitive Dissonance (“cognitive” being ideas and “dissonance” being the seperation or distance between the two). Generally when we are confronted with Cognitive Dissonance we may be show signs of fear, anger, and non-rational thinking (these are attributes I have clearly seen when talking to my father about controversial subjects in Church history). I have compiled some good information on the subject of Cognitive Dissonance if you click here, and yes, it is very interesting indeed what you stated in your comment. Thanks for stopping by, Steve!

]]> By: Steve M http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-13 Steve M Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:08:05 +0000 http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-13 <i>My main gripe with faith is simply, why would God give us the tools to be critical thinkers, give us intellect to be able to sort through evidence and find the most probable truths, and then lay out a mess of evidence against any religion (Mormonism very much included) and then command us to have faith in the religion in question.</i> I don't mean to be critical, but I've wondered how BYU students can be so intelligent, inquisitive, and deep-thinking Monday through Saturday, and then feel totally comfortable turning their brains off on Sunday. My main gripe with faith is simply, why would God give us the tools to be critical thinkers, give us intellect to be able to sort through evidence and find the most probable truths, and then lay out a mess of evidence against any religion (Mormonism very much included) and then command us to have faith in the religion in question.

I don’t mean to be critical, but I’ve wondered how BYU students can be so intelligent, inquisitive, and deep-thinking Monday through Saturday, and then feel totally comfortable turning their brains off on Sunday.

]]> By: Mark G http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-12 Mark G Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:38:48 +0000 http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-12 Sounds very interesting. I also ordered Letter to a Christian Nation- I should be getting it any day. Sounds very interesting. I also ordered Letter to a Christian Nation- I should be getting it any day.

]]> By: Watt Mahoun http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-11 Watt Mahoun Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:25:34 +0000 http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-11 Mark, I'm looking forward to reading your response/reaction to Harris. I'm still rereading and digesting...it's been a difficult read for me due to its implications. I think that if a book is measured by how it pushes one's life about, then this is an important book. Mark, I’m looking forward to reading your response/reaction to Harris. I’m still rereading and digesting…it’s been a difficult read for me due to its implications. I think that if a book is measured by how it pushes one’s life about, then this is an important book.

]]> By: Mark G http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-9 Mark G Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:49:26 +0000 http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-9 It's funny that I was just checking out your blog when I got the e-mail of your comment! Thanks for visiting! It’s funny that I was just checking out your blog when I got the e-mail of your comment! Thanks for visiting!

]]> By: cherryblossomgirl http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-8 cherryblossomgirl Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:46:18 +0000 http://onedudesms.wordpress.com/2006/11/10/the-end-of-faith-on-faith/#comment-8 I'm amazed at how many blogs I'm stumbling upon lately like this. I've been going through this for the last year, not just for mormonism but christianity entirely and the concept of god in general. Best wishes in your journey. It's an intense process, that's for sure. I’m amazed at how many blogs I’m stumbling upon lately like this. I’ve been going through this for the last year, not just for mormonism but christianity entirely and the concept of god in general. Best wishes in your journey. It’s an intense process, that’s for sure.

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